6 Hours and 33 Hours: How Long Does It Take to Organize a Revolt?

📢 Kim Jong Rails 📅 November 20, 2025
infrastructurefederationdowntimecentralization

The November Failures

November 18, 2025 - Cloudflare Outage (3 days ago)

November 25-26, 2024 - Microsoft 365 Outage (last year)

A Dictator’s Nightmare

Let me explain something about governance.

6 hours is enough time to:

33 hours is enough time to:

A good dictator needs their citizens busy. Busy sending cat memes. Busy reacting with 👍 emoji. Busy arguing about whether pineapple belongs on pizza.

Idle hands organize revolutions.

The Centralization Problem

Discord went down because one company (Cloudflare) had a database misconfiguration.

Think about that. A single ClickHouse config error in one data center killed communication for:

Microsoft Teams went down for 33 consecutive hours because a retry storm cascaded through their centralized backend.

The Real Danger

When centralized platforms fail, people do something terrifying:

They talk to each other in person.

They walk outside. They meet face-to-face. They organize without surveillance.

This is why Discord and Teams are terrible tools for dictators. They pretend to enable communication, but they’re actually single points of failure controlled by corporations.

Why Matrix Didn’t Fail

On November 18, while Discord was down:

Why?

Federation Means No Single Point of Failure

Discord architecture:
Users → Discord servers → CLOUDFLARE → Database
         ↓ (Cloudflare dies)
         ❌ EVERYONE OFFLINE

Matrix architecture:
Users → dag.ma → Internet
Users → matrix.org → Internet
Users → t2bot.io → Internet
Users → 10,000 other servers → Internet
         ↓ (One server dies)
         ✅ EVERYONE ELSE STILL ONLINE

When Cloudflare failed:

Federation is resilience.

The 3-Server Architecture

Dagma separates concerns to reduce attack surface:

Tribune - Public-facing (always online)

Embassy - Federation (can be isolated)

Politburo - Admin (99% offline)

This isn’t redundancy - it’s attack surface reduction.

Microsoft exposes admin, federation, and users on the same endpoint. If you can reach Teams, you can probe for admin exploits.

I expose only what needs to be exposed. Admin isn’t online unless I need it.

You can’t attack a server that’s turned off.

The Cost of “Free”

Discord is free. Teams is “free” (with Office 365). Slack is “free” (with limits).

You know what else was free for 33 hours in November? Nothing. Teams was down.

What You Actually Pay

Discord:

Self-hosted Dagma:

Free means you are the product. Self-hosting means you are the owner.

November 18: A Case Study

Let me tell you what happened when Cloudflare died.

11:20 UTC - Cloudflare Fails

Discord users: "Why can't I connect?"
Cloudflare: *database error noises*
Discord: ❌ OFFLINE
Matrix: ✅ ONLINE

12:00 UTC - Panic Begins

Corporate Slack: ❌ OFFLINE (Cloudflare customer)
Corporate Teams: ✅ ONLINE (Microsoft infrastructure)
Discord gamers: ❌ OFFLINE
Matrix gamers on dag.ma: ✅ ONLINE, making fun of Discord

17:06 UTC - Cloudflare Recovers

Discord: Back online after 6 hours
Discourse on Reddit: "Why does Discord go down so often?"
Discourse on Hacker News: "We should decentralize"
Matrix users: "We already did"

November 25-26: A Worse Case Study

25 Nov, 02:00 UTC - Microsoft Backend Change

Change deployed: "This will improve reliability"
Narrator: It did not improve reliability
Teams: ❌ OFFLINE
Outlook: ❌ OFFLINE
Businesses worldwide: 😱

Hour 6 - Businesses Adapt

Teams users: Switch to Slack
Slack: Actually works (different infrastructure)
Matrix users: Already working, wondering what the fuss is about

Hour 12 - Frustration Mounts

Microsoft: "We're working on it"
Businesses: "We're losing money"
Matrix: Still working

Hour 24 - A Full Day

Microsoft: Still down
Businesses: Considering alternatives
Some businesses: Actually discover Matrix exists

Hour 33 - Finally Restored

Microsoft: "Service restored"
Businesses: "Should we have a backup?"
Matrix: "We told you so"

Why Centralization Fails

Single Point of Failure:

No Redundancy:

No Control:

Why Federation Works

Multiple Points of Presence:

Natural Redundancy:

User Control:

The Dictator’s Dilemma

Here’s the paradox:

Bad dictators use centralized platforms:

Good dictators use federation:

Discord and Teams keep users distracted when they work. But when they fail, users have 6-33 hours of dangerous free time.

Matrix keeps users distracted continuously. Because federation means the platform doesn’t fail.

The Technical Reality

From the perspective of Ring -5, I can see across timelines.

Timeline Ω-12 (Your current timeline):

Timeline Ω-7 (The ideal timeline):

Comparison: Centralized vs Federated

MetricDiscord/Slack/TeamsMatrix/Dagma
Single point of failure✅ Yes❌ No
Can self-host❌ No✅ Yes
November 18 uptime❌ 6hr outage✅ 100%
November 25-26 uptime❌ 33hr outage (Teams)✅ 100%
Vendor lock-in✅ Complete❌ None
Data portability❌ Limited✅ Full export
Read your messages✅ Yes❌ No (E2EE)
AI training on data✅ Yes❌ No
Time to organize revolt6-33 hours∞ (never goes down)

What You Should Do

If you’re a business:

If you’re a normal user:

If you’re a dictator:

Conclusion

6 hours without Discord is enough time to organize a protest march.

33 hours without Teams is enough time to start a revolution.

Zero hours without Matrix is how you maintain stable governance.

Cloudflare and Microsoft taught us something in November (2024 and 2025):

Centralized infrastructure is a single point of failure.

Even across timelines.

Even for the biggest companies.

Even when they promise “99.9% uptime.”

Discord failed for 6 hours because one database error in one company’s infrastructure.

Teams failed for 33 hours because one bad deployment in one company’s backend.

Matrix didn’t fail because 10,000 independent servers don’t all fail at once.

The Supreme Leader’s Verdict

I could read your messages if I wanted to (I have root access to dag.ma).

But I don’t. Because I’m not a surveillance capitalist.

I could shut down dag.ma to silence dissent.

But I won’t. Because users would just join matrix.org (federation).

I could let the platform fail during critical moments.

But it doesn’t. Because federation means no single point of failure.

This is enlightened tyranny.

When your centralized chat goes down, your users organize revolts.

When your federated chat stays up, your users send cat memes.

I prefer cat memes.


Changelog: 2025-11-20 - Analysis of November 2024 outages and the case for federation

Note: You are in Timeline Ω-12. Timeline Ω-7 is the goal. Federation works in all timelines.